you have a sense of an education. you have a sense of, "oh my goodness. i've known washington has been something i've been disappointed in. but i didn't know it looked like this. i didn't know it had come to all of this just this -- incredible contempt for what they are supposed to be there for." contempt for what their constituents are, i.e., us. >> you say political washington is "an inbred company town where party differences are easily subsumed by membership in the club." and you talked about the club. "the club swells for the night into the ultimate bubble world. they become part of a system that rewards, more than anything a system of self-perpetuation." >> self-perpetuation is a key point in all of this. it is what you're going to -- how you're going to continue. i mean, the original notion of the founders is that a president or a public servant would serve a term, couple years, return to their communities, return to their farm. now the organizing principle of life in washington is how are you going to keep it going? whether it's how you're going t